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U.S. Soldiers = examples of dignity, respect, and justice?
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 12:06 am
by markos
"If we can't hold ourselves up as an example of how to treat people with dignity and respect, we can't ask that other nations do that to our soldiers."
http://www.livejournal.com/users/throwi ... 13278.html
:Angry: :Angry: :Angry: :Angry: :Angry: :Angry: :Angry: :Angry: :Angry: :Angry: :Angry: :Angry:
Im one step from becoming a Canadian! :Angry: :Angry: :Angry:
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 12:11 am
by markos
nvm. they arent any better.
http://archives.cbc.ca/300c.asp?id=1-71-723 :Angry: :Angry:
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 1:08 am
by Bobo
http://www.livejournal.com/users/throwi ... 13278.html
This page is User Written, with no solid evidence! Give me a notable source and I'll beleive you.
And about those canadians. No evidence needed
WE GOT K0!!!
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 4:30 am
by markos
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 6:53 am
by Thunderdog
Easy on the emotions, there... someone's gonna get hurt.
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 8:11 am
by Cmaza
This doesn't suprise me at all.
Sorry to not be emotional or anything, but this sort of news is nothing new.
This sort of things happens.
"What are you going to do about it?"
-The question behind the reason why "terrorists" are impossible to overcome.
In my personal opinion, America is just a modern day Roman Empire.
(Though I should also add that if it wasn't America, there would still be another nation to take it's place)
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 8:12 am
by John The Ax
So? 16 soldiers. Dur, the armys evil, dur! 16 soldiers go and abuse prisoners, all soldiers are evil, ugggghhhh...!!!
Yeah, right...
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 8:13 am
by Cmaza
*doesn't know wtf John The Ax just said*
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 8:41 am
by Kazer0
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 8:53 am
by Bobo
"...those prisoners who did make it out told nightmarish tales of torture beyond imagining – and executions without reason. " -CBS
And to their religion the Americans Are the devil. Lies like this and others come every day. And yes America is not a Perfect god, and yes. We do stand as the moral shood-bies in the world. And we are. Though somtimes not perfect. By no means does that justify what happend. All I'm saying is, America cannot be held responcible for every SOLDIER in their army.
Try reading the Koran some time.
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 9:56 am
by Thunderdog
Oh, and, as far as this torturing tidbit goes, WHOOPASS. *Awaits flames*
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 10:32 am
by Bobo
I'm rdy for any joker that comes my way
K0- You got that right!
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 3:34 pm
by markos
and you say that GH is childish.
im out of this forum. might browse as guest from time to time, but dont expect me to post. not any time soon at least.
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 4:36 pm
by John The Ax
Nah, there's really only one or two idiots here. Of course, there's really only 8 members here...
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 4:42 pm
by Thunderdog
John The Ax wrote:Nah, there's really only one or two idiots here. Of course, there's really only 8 members here...
wtf i thought u were my frend!!!!! :Angry: :Angry: :Angry:
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 5:16 pm
by Amro
Bobo wrote: And to their religion the Americans Are the devil...
Try reading the Koran some time.
I might remind you that the Koran is over 1400 years old, and there is no reference to america whatsoever.
Have YOU read the Koran?
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 8:50 pm
by Bobo
Actually I've read it front to back
Amro, I know know. Not all Muslims are radicals. You're not! The extremest are quoted saying we are the devil. Sorry.
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 9:49 pm
by Cmaza
If this is going to get into a religeous flame war, count me out.
Posted: Sat May 01, 2004 3:50 pm
by Dogbreath
Okay, let me get this straight.
17 U.S. soldiers acted in violation of orders and tortured prisoners. They have all been removed from the service and are being court marshaled. (If convicted of murder they'll be shot) This happens a lot in war time-soldiers are only human too, and actually, compared to the civilian population, the murder rates in the armed forces is rather low. Now, tell me, how does a couple of soldiers committing a crime (for which they're being punished, btw) translate into "the evil U.S. empire torturing and oppressing the poor Iraqi people"?!?!? Did you even read the articles you linked to?
Oh, you might want to reconsider insulting members and calling them childish for holding viewpoints other than your own. That kind of behavior isn't looked upon kindly here.
Posted: Sat May 01, 2004 6:39 pm
by Interon
But isn't that a co-op group effort? 17 soldiers working together to do this. Even a Brigadier General, a high rank!
Something is screwed up, very screwed up. Not one of those 17 objected!? Like what's up here! Anyone there to intercept them before it's too late?
This is like a school with lazy teachers and principal. The bullies take over! Not one of them there to say "DON'T DO THIS YOU SICKOS!". The system is very poorly run if a group co-ops to do that. And all 17 of them so darn sadistic?