U.S. Soldiers = examples of dignity, respect, and justice?

markos · Post by **markos** » Fri Apr 30, 2004 12:06 am

"If we can't hold ourselves up as an example of how to treat people with dignity and respect, we can't ask that other nations do that to our soldiers."

http://www.livejournal.com/users/throwi ... 13278.html

:Angry: :Angry: :Angry: :Angry: :Angry: :Angry: :Angry: :Angry: :Angry: :Angry: :Angry: :Angry:

Im one step from becoming a Canadian! :Angry: :Angry: :Angry:

markos · Post by **markos** » Fri Apr 30, 2004 12:11 am

nvm. they arent any better. http://archives.cbc.ca/300c.asp?id=1-71-723 :Angry: :Angry:

Bobo · Post by **Bobo** » Fri Apr 30, 2004 1:08 am

http://www.livejournal.com/users/throwi ... 13278.html

This page is User Written, with no solid evidence! Give me a notable source and I'll beleive you.

And about those canadians. No evidence needed

WE GOT K0!!!

markos · Post by **markos** » Fri Apr 30, 2004 4:30 am

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/04/ ... 4063.shtml
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/29/politics/29ABUS.html
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bal-te ... -headlines

DIE!

Thunderdog · Post by **Thunderdog** » Fri Apr 30, 2004 6:53 am

Easy on the emotions, there... someone's gonna get hurt.

Cmaza · Post by **Cmaza** » Fri Apr 30, 2004 8:11 am

This doesn't suprise me at all.
Sorry to not be emotional or anything, but this sort of news is nothing new.
This sort of things happens.

"What are you going to do about it?"
-The question behind the reason why "terrorists" are impossible to overcome.

In my personal opinion, America is just a modern day Roman Empire.
(Though I should also add that if it wasn't America, there would still be another nation to take it's place)

John The Ax · Post by **John The Ax** » Fri Apr 30, 2004 8:12 am

So? 16 soldiers. Dur, the armys evil, dur! 16 soldiers go and abuse prisoners, all soldiers are evil, ugggghhhh...!!!

Yeah, right...

Cmaza · Post by **Cmaza** » Fri Apr 30, 2004 8:13 am

*doesn't know wtf John The Ax just said*

Kazer0 · Post by **Kazer0** » Fri Apr 30, 2004 8:41 am

Bobo wrote:

http://www.livejournal.com/users/throwi ... 13278.html

This page is User Written, with no solid evidence! Give me a notable source and I'll beleive you.

And about those canadians. No evidence needed WE GOT K0!!!

Damn strait.

Bobo · Post by **Bobo** » Fri Apr 30, 2004 8:53 am

"...those prisoners who did make it out told nightmarish tales of torture beyond imagining – and executions without reason. " -CBS

And to their religion the Americans Are the devil. Lies like this and others come every day. And yes America is not a Perfect god, and yes. We do stand as the moral shood-bies in the world. And we are. Though somtimes not perfect. By no means does that justify what happend. All I'm saying is, America cannot be held responcible for every SOLDIER in their army.

Try reading the Koran some time.

Thunderdog · Post by **Thunderdog** » Fri Apr 30, 2004 9:56 am

Oh, and, as far as this torturing tidbit goes, WHOOPASS. *Awaits flames*

Bobo · Post by **Bobo** » Fri Apr 30, 2004 10:32 am

I'm rdy for any joker that comes my way

K0- You got that right!

markos · Post by **markos** » Fri Apr 30, 2004 3:34 pm

and you say that GH is childish.

im out of this forum. might browse as guest from time to time, but dont expect me to post. not any time soon at least.

John The Ax · Post by **John The Ax** » Fri Apr 30, 2004 4:36 pm

Nah, there's really only one or two idiots here. Of course, there's really only 8 members here...

Thunderdog · Post by **Thunderdog** » Fri Apr 30, 2004 4:42 pm

John The Ax wrote:Nah, there's really only one or two idiots here. Of course, there's really only 8 members here...

wtf i thought u were my frend!!!!! :Angry: :Angry: :Angry:

Amro · Post by **Amro** » Fri Apr 30, 2004 5:16 pm

Bobo wrote: And to their religion the Americans Are the devil...

Try reading the Koran some time.

I might remind you that the Koran is over 1400 years old, and there is no reference to america whatsoever.

Have YOU read the Koran?

Bobo · Post by **Bobo** » Fri Apr 30, 2004 8:50 pm

Actually I've read it front to back

Amro, I know know. Not all Muslims are radicals. You're not! The extremest are quoted saying we are the devil. Sorry.

Cmaza · Post by **Cmaza** » Fri Apr 30, 2004 9:49 pm

If this is going to get into a religeous flame war, count me out.

Post by **Dogbreath** » Sat May 01, 2004 3:50 pm

Okay, let me get this straight.

17 U.S. soldiers acted in violation of orders and tortured prisoners. They have all been removed from the service and are being court marshaled. (If convicted of murder they'll be shot) This happens a lot in war time-soldiers are only human too, and actually, compared to the civilian population, the murder rates in the armed forces is rather low. Now, tell me, how does a couple of soldiers committing a crime (for which they're being punished, btw) translate into "the evil U.S. empire torturing and oppressing the poor Iraqi people"?!?!? Did you even read the articles you linked to?

Oh, you might want to reconsider insulting members and calling them childish for holding viewpoints other than your own. That kind of behavior isn't looked upon kindly here.

Interon · Post by **Interon** » Sat May 01, 2004 6:39 pm

But isn't that a co-op group effort? 17 soldiers working together to do this. Even a Brigadier General, a high rank!

Something is screwed up, very screwed up. Not one of those 17 objected!? Like what's up here! Anyone there to intercept them before it's too late?

This is like a school with lazy teachers and principal. The bullies take over! Not one of them there to say "DON'T DO THIS YOU SICKOS!". The system is very poorly run if a group co-ops to do that. And all 17 of them so darn sadistic?