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Qbasic!
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2002 8:04 am
by Oz
you forgot to add qbasic. that is probably the best game creation tool ever! it's great because you can create serius programs as well as games.
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2002 12:29 pm
by John The Ax
I really didn't like QBASIC. It sucked too much for my games. It was limiting when it came to graphics.

I totally gave up on it.
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2002 6:02 pm
by Da_Goat
But it's awesome for text adventures....
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2002 6:08 pm
by Oz
yeah. but it can do ASCII graphics, like other game creation systems.
i love it.

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2002 2:16 pm
by John The Ax
But it is much harder to do ASCII graphics. You can't point and click like ZZT.

No BASIC for me.

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2002 1:59 am
by nastypoisonspikes
....You can't point and click like ZZT....
You mean you use the mouse in ZZT?
Am I the only one here that doesn't use the mouse in ZZT?
Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2002 7:55 am
by Nanobot
nastypoisonspikes wrote:....You can't point and click like ZZT....
You mean you use the mouse in ZZT?
Am I the only one here that doesn't use the mouse in ZZT?
Yes. You are the only one. You are alone in the world of non-mouse-users. I pity you.
Actually, I know very few people who use the mouse at all in ZZT. You can't really do too much with it other than click to place whatever is already the current pattern (actually, that IS all you can do with it).
I think John means that you can't just go around placing stuff like you can in ZZT.
Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2002 12:41 pm
by John The Ax
That is EXACTLY what I mean. I don't use the mouse in ZZT, either.
Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2002 2:24 am
by nastypoisonspikes
Okay, I understand.
Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2002 2:26 am
by nastypoisonspikes
On the topic of QBasic, does anyone have any game ideas for me? Try to keep them simple!

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2002 8:45 pm
by Kazer0
i dont have a mouse. SO :p
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2002 6:14 am
by nastypoisonspikes
...you mean on another computer you don't have a mouse?
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2002 1:15 pm
by Kazer0
ya, my dos comp.
basic is good
Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2002 1:44 am
by caractacus
you people who only use point-and-click are veeery limited in my experience. sure, point-and-click programs are good for a dabble, but they're generally slow and rather limiting. most can be used to create only a few types of games. how can you invent new genres and come up with new ideas with that?
basic is good because, though it is more limited than, say, c++, it is easier and less time consuming. so it's somewhere in between point-and-click and advanced programming.
i have been using basic for years, and i have found that qbasic does have very limited memory, 32K, which really doesn't matter if you use a compiler. i use it to create fighting games, strategy, rpg.
(well *embaressed* i must confess that i never finish a single game, but that's just laziness on my part)
Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2002 1:54 am
by nastypoisonspikes
...if you had read it properly, you would've seen that we wern't talking about any point and click game creators, ZZT does use a mouse....but it's crap so it doesn't count.
Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2002 2:46 pm
by Da_Goat
I don't think zzt was meant to do the things that qbasic or c++ does. If it was meant to do all that, it would be Game Maker (which is another point-and-click game creator, except it can make many differen't kinds of games. I forgot the link, but you can get it from Game Hippo

........as well as a whole enchilada of others..........mmm, mexican food........er, I mean, yeah................)
QBASIC games CAN be done... it's just not easy
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2003 2:45 pm
by Homz
You can make OK games in QBASIC, but it's quite difficult however
Da_Goat wrote: But it's awesome for text adventures...
(and pretty easy too!). To see some QBASIC games, logon to:
http://www.qbasic.com
Homz
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2003 11:11 pm
by nastypoisonspikes
That site was shut down a long while ago, but I think most things still work and the forum is still used a lot.
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2003 8:22 am
by John The Ax
Yeah, it's kind of interesting.
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2003 9:02 am
by nastypoisonspikes
I suppose a more correct word for the current site status would be "abandoned", and with it being a popular domain name, it still gets a lot of traffic.