Important: Letter from the IDSA ... and they're retarded

Post by **emmzee** » Tue Dec 17, 2002 11:59 am

Here ya go:

> > Interactive Digital Software Association
> > 1211 Connecticut Avenue, N.W.
> > Washington, DC 20036 USA
> >
> > Attention: Piracy Enforcement â?" DMCA Officer
> > Telephone: 202-223-2400
> > Fax: 202-223-2401
> > E-mail: [email protected]
> >
> > Monday, December 16, 2002
> >
> > Dear [email protected],
> >
> > I am an authorized representative of the Interactive Digital Software
> Association (â?oIDSAâ?�), which represents the intellectual property
> interests of almost thirty companies that publish interactive games for video
> game consoles, personal computers, handheld devices and the Internet.
> >
> > IDSA is providing this letter of notification to make Tera-Byte Online
> Services aware of material available via its network or system that infringes
> the exclusive copyright and trademark rights of one or more IDSA members.
> This notice is addressed to you as an agent of Tera-Byte Online Services for
> purposes of receiving notifications of claimed infringement. We hereby
> affirm that the IDSA is authorized to act on behalf of the IDSA members whose
> exclusive copyright rights we believe to be infringed as described herein.
> >
> > Based on the information obtained by IDSA that is provided in this e-
> mailâ?Ts attachments, IDSA has a good faith belief that the Internet site
> found at http://www.dosgames.com/ infringes the rights of one or more IDSA
> members by offering for download one or more unauthorized copies of one or
> more game products protected by copyright, including, but not limited to:
> >
> > Doom
> > Mario
> > Quake
> > Wolfenstein
> >
> > Through the Berne Convention and other international treaties covering
> intellectual property rights, we believe that our membersâ?T rights in such
> games are entitled to the full protection of the intellectual property laws
> of your country.
> >
> > The unauthorized copies of such game product[s] appearing on, or made
> available through, such site are listed and/or identified on such Internet
> site by their titles, variations thereof or depictions of associated artwork
> (any such game titles, copies, listings and/or other depictions of, or
> references to, any contents of such game product, are hereinafter referred to
> as â?oInfringing Materialâ?�). Based on the information at its disposal on
> 12/11/2002 7:03:05 PM GMT, IDSA believes that the statements herein
> accurately describe the infringing nature and status of the Infringing
> Material.
> >
> > Accordingly, IDSA hereby requests Tera-Byte Online Services to immediately
> remove or disable access to the Infringing Material at the URL address
> identified above.
> >
> > Should you have questions, please contact the IDSA at the above listed
> mailing address or by replying to this email. Please also include the above
> noted Reference Number in the subject line of all email correspondence.
> >
> > We thank you for your cooperation in this matter. Your prompt response is
> appreciated.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Robert L. Hunter, IV
> > Interactive Digital Software Association
> >
> > Note: The information transmitted in this Notice is intended only for the
> person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or
> privileged material. Any review, reproduction, retransmission, dissemination
> or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information
> by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If
> you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material
> from all computers.

Isn't that stupid ... they're SHAREWARE. Goddamn. The worst part is I may have to remove them anyways just to passify the IDSA and my host.

Post by **Dogbreath** » Tue Dec 17, 2002 1:15 pm

I would check to see if the shareware distribution license that allowed you to freely distribute the games listed is still in effect. If so, you had every right as granted by the publisher its self to distribute the games.

John The Ax · Post by **John The Ax** » Tue Dec 17, 2002 1:48 pm

Yeah, check that out, though I believe that it's perfectly legal, even still. If they deny it, you could take it to court, and probably win.

I'd contact ID and ask them if it is legal to distribute the shareware versions of their games.

webmaster from hell · Post by **webmaster from hell** » Tue Dec 17, 2002 1:59 pm

I fell asleep halfway through....*yawn*

John The Ax · Post by **John The Ax** » Tue Dec 17, 2002 2:56 pm

Okay, it's time to ban your sorry butt from this forum. We warned you about your senseless posts before, things that no one wants to read, so you are seriously going to be banned.. We've warned you MANY times about raising dead topics, spamming, writing senseless posts (like this one) and the like. I'm sorry you're a moron who can't listen to authority, but it IS your loss, not ours.

Kazer0 · Post by **Kazer0** » Tue Dec 17, 2002 3:20 pm

Note: The information transmitted in this Notice is intended only for the
> person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or
> privileged material. Any review, reproduction, retransmission, dissemination
> or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information
> by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If
> you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material
> from all computers.

hum........ Did Mr. Zingwhipper happen to notice this?

SHAREWARE: The practice of spreading parts or time limited entertainment to attract new customers to buy the full version.

That is perfectly legal. i think they glanced it and thought it was the full version.

Post by **Dogbreath** » Tue Dec 17, 2002 3:25 pm

Emmzee should respond to the e-mail explaining that they were only shareware games. He should also send copies of the various shareware licenses that allowed him to distribute the games to prove to the ISDA that what he did was legal.

BTW, WFH has been blocked from the forum until December 19th.

Da_Goat · Post by **Da_Goat** » Tue Dec 17, 2002 7:46 pm

I'm pretty sure Doom and Quake's shareware is still in effect, since you can download them from ID's website!

nastypoisonspikes · Post by **nastypoisonspikes** » Wed Dec 18, 2002 8:03 am

Okay, it's time to ban your sorry butt from this forum. ...

YAY!

And what's with all the â's? Some kind of linking code or something?

Oz · Post by Oz » Wed Dec 18, 2002 2:32 pm

I think that those >'s are from copying from eudors, a mailing program much like outlook express. that is, if you were talking about those...

Post by **wardrich** » Wed Dec 18, 2002 7:19 pm

where is Mario??? I dont remember seeing that!

Post by **emmzee** » Thu Dec 19, 2002 12:57 am

Mario is already gone, because I could KIND of see their point on that one. (Using a copyrighted character in an unlicensed game.) I wrote to my host explaining the situation and this was their reply:

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I understand that you do not have any abondonware/warez on your site, however
they feel that you do not have the right to distribute those games, even the
shareware versions.

I suggest taking those meantioned links down and contact the copyright
holders for permission to have the old versions of the software on your
site. After you get permission to put them online, feel free to put them
back.

Thank you,

Network Operations Centre Tera-Byte.com

--------------------

I don't have anything against my host because they are simply stuck between a rock and a hard place, and doing what they have to do. If they don't make me take the links down the ISDA will sue them instead which they of course don't want.

I've emailed id Software about Wolf/Doom/Quake ..... hopefully I'll get a reply soon ... if I don't get a reply by tomorrow night I'll take those three links down (for now) and keep trying until someone responds to me. Ah the fun of running a website hehe

Oh I guess I should update this sucka sometime eh? Well I'm sure before Christmas I can update ... I've been working a lot on my other site lately ...

nastypoisonspikes · Post by **nastypoisonspikes** » Thu Dec 19, 2002 3:28 am

What, you mean this site gets updated?

What other site?

Post by **emmzee** » Fri Dec 20, 2002 12:48 pm

The site in my sig

..... well still no reply from the ISDA or anyone I emailed from id Software so those 3 games are gone (for now) ... they're still on the page just commented out heh. Annnnnnnnyways. Happy holidays all

webmaster from hell · Post by **webmaster from hell** » Fri Dec 20, 2002 2:24 pm

To tell you the truth, I don't mind. Wolfenstein sucks, and the other two I already have downloaded. But I hope you can get it worked out, because the two are really great games! Happy Holidays!

Da_Goat · Post by **Da_Goat** » Fri Dec 20, 2002 2:38 pm

emmzee, that site's great! Now I know some stores to get my SNES games off of other than ebay or amazon!

BTW, I just went to id Software........it looks like they are constructing their download section at the time, so *technically* you can't get the shareware games from id at the time. Maybe your download can go up when their's do....