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Dogbreath wrote:My question is why does Islam try to be inclusive of Judaism and Christianity? As I've shown via names of God in the OT (and Emmzee in the New) that Allah equaling Jehovah would be contradicting many things about both religions. I'm not saying Islam is somehow evil because Allah is not Jehovah (it does have much truth to it), just that modern day religious "experts" shouldn't claim they are the same-they are two different beings.
or, you could say that they are the same being, but differently percepted by different cultural groups.
so, after all, all the main religions believe that there is one God. That that God is omnipotent, and the creator of everything and everyone. thats all that counts. thats why I think those experts are right about this.
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A serial killer gets thrown in prison for life, after murdering a family. after 50 years, when the news of his death by old age gets on the newspapers, people talk about him. "you remember that guy, Abe? he was that red-headed bloke who gunned down that family back in the JFK days. you remember him?" , "yeah, Moe, I remember him, but his hair was blonde, not red-headed." they are talking about the same person, but during those 50 years things have changed in their memories. hence the distinctions.
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I agree with the idea that all religions have some truth in them. Many different religions have a lot of valuable and valid ideas.

However, in the example you gave, his hair was really only one color. (Assuming for this example he never dyed it or something :rolleyes: ) One person is right, and the other is wrong. (Or they're both wrong.) The thing is that since we all believe in objective truth (being able to function in daily life demands it) there must be certain truths about God as well. Since different religions have different sets of beliefs, some must be closer to the truth than others.

Moreover, if God wanted himself to be known to us, I would think (and this is my own finite thinking so it may well be wrong) that he would reveal himself in ways that, despite cultural differences, we would be able to know and experience the truth about Him (or "It", whatever).

As always, just some random thoughts, my 2 cents worth ... don't take anything I say too seriously :angel:
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We wouldn't take the owner of the forum seriously. ;) :D

That's what I was trying to figure out. Why he would let it currupt. NOT saying it is. Wouldn't Jesus try to tell Paul that what he was going to do is wrong, or act upon it. Why would he let it just, break. He knew Judas was going to betray him.

BTW: I started this after I finnished one of my studies on foriegn religons. I guess there not very foriegn in America.
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Yup, that was exactly my point :) Something like:

if ( jesus == "God" )
{
bible = true;
}
else
{
bible = false;
}

........ hmm I've been doing too much coding today :P Nevertheless the above still holds. Its boolean; the Bible is either true or false, not "mostly true" or something of that sort.
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I'm an atheist. So screw you all.

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Is that how you organize your code, MZ? I'd do it:
if ( jesus == "God" ) { bible = true; }
else { bible = false; }
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Depends on my mood :) Actually, for one-line statements like that, I will usually leave the brackets off altogether:

if ( jesus == "God" ) bible = true;
else bible = false;

Eh I'm not adament about it like some people ... I worked in teams with people who were crazy about their brackets, and indenting, and stuff :shifty:
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I'm with you Johnny. :)

So what is up with aithests? :laugh:
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Psalm 53:1 KJV
The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.
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Excellent Dogbreath!

Emmzee and Dogbreath seem to be my brothers!

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:D La Illaha Illa Alah. Muhamid Illaha Resul Alah! WHAHAAHAHAH
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I'm reading the Apocrypha at the moment, and I was wondering about somthings.

1. Some of these verses look like they should not have been taken out, no?

2. Don't the Catholics use the Apocrypha in the their Bible?
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