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A motherboard for a "new" Pentium II

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 3:19 pm
by fabiobol
I found at home a motherboard based on the SLOT1. It's A MSI MS6163 with chipset Via Apollo Pro 133. I would like to install in this motherboard a Celeron 300A. At her time (about 5 years ago), was a good motherboard, or should I choose another with the Intel Chipset?

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 5:44 am
by Wally
fabiobol no problem if the FSB and the socket is correct.

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 9:42 am
by jmmijo
Those should match up quite nicely in fact as that chipset also supports the COPPERMINE core cpu's ;)

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 4:03 pm
by fabiobol
jmmijo wrote:Those should match up quite nicely in fact as that chipset also supports the COPPERMINE core cpu's ;)
Yes, I know that but, unfortunately, i noticed that my MSI W6199 v3.4 has a terrible AGP-section! I tried Vampire, a 3D GAME produced in 1999. I used it with a FYI 82440LX MB and a G200 card, it ran fine. Now, with the Via Apollo 133 and a G450 it runs very, very slow! In your opinion, why?

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 10:34 pm
by jmmijo
I'm thinking that this is the early 133 chipset, i.e., IIRC, this had some AGP issues with some graphics cards.

Do you have any older 3Dfx cards, say some Voodoo 3/4/5 cards or even some older nVidia cards perhaps.

I wonder if the combo of the Matrox and Via chipset is what's causing this problem.

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 2:30 am
by fabiobol
jmmijo wrote:I'm thinking that this is the early 133 chipset, i.e., IIRC, this had some AGP issues with some graphics cards.

Do you have any older 3Dfx cards, say some Voodoo 3/4/5 cards or even some older nVidia cards perhaps.

I wonder if the combo of the Matrox and Via chipset is what's causing this problem.
I also have a Savage 4, but it's not so good, and a TNT2 M64. In my opinion, i have to sell the Via-motherboard and buy a 440LX-chipset.

Unfortunately, I haven't a 3dFX card, but I'm searching for an used one.

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 9:21 am
by jmmijo
My suggestion would be to look for a used Intel BX chipset board instead. Most third party boards based on this chipset would do 133 without any problems even though Intel only specced that chipset for 100, it would overclock without any problems ;)

Another option to think about is using a third party DOS VESA driver, like those from SciTechSoft.

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 2:03 pm
by fabiobol
Ok, next week I'll buy a Zida 6ALX-motherboard (do you know it??) with i440BX chipset and also USB installed, 256 RAM, PII450, modem56k and a very cheap Genius PCI audio card. All these things for a price of 30€ (i come from Italy), but believe me, it's very cheap. For the Via-based board, I don't know what to do: if I I sold it, I would be very dishonest, because the AGP-section, in my opinion, is very very slow. But maybe it isn't true... I don't know, I have to make more tests. Surely, an I440BX board is more powerful with PII CPU.

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 8:44 pm
by Wally
YOu prolly already will have audio built in