Gravis Ultrasound Drivers and Patches for DOSBox [Howto]
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Gravis Ultrasound Drivers and Patches for DOSBox [Howto]
Is Your Gravis Ultrasound Emulation Really Working?
If you're not sure, or only "think so", then you should
Download the archive HERE!
Extract it with WinRar or 7-Zip or something.
Inside you will find two folders, ULTRASND411 and ULTRASNDPPL161.
Just point DOSBox to one of them! (411 is the factory version, and PPL161 is the souped up version.) Read more about the differences here.
Although not many games support it, DOSBox DOES emulate Gravis Ultrasound, which is considered by aficionados to sound much better than SoundBlaster. Here is a partial list of games that work with Gravis Ultrasound.
The only problem is that Gravis Ultrasound emulation MAY NOT work with the stock DOSBox. Your game will just play SoundBlaster sound unless you point DOSBox to a directory that has the proper GUS files in it, since THEY DON'T COME WITH DOSBOX.
Creating an updated directory of these files from the original installers is a process long and involved, so to make it easy for you I created an ULTRASND directory that has every file in it possible, and it's updated thru Pro Patches Lite 1.61. (Pro Patches Lite is a third party update set that is more current than, and considered superior to, the originals.)
This may be the first time you have ever heard Ultrasound working.
This is the first and only download like it on the internet, or else I would have not had to make one!
To see how I did it, you can learn to install GUS from scratch HERE.
If you're not sure, or only "think so", then you should
Download the archive HERE!
Extract it with WinRar or 7-Zip or something.
Inside you will find two folders, ULTRASND411 and ULTRASNDPPL161.
Just point DOSBox to one of them! (411 is the factory version, and PPL161 is the souped up version.) Read more about the differences here.
Although not many games support it, DOSBox DOES emulate Gravis Ultrasound, which is considered by aficionados to sound much better than SoundBlaster. Here is a partial list of games that work with Gravis Ultrasound.
The only problem is that Gravis Ultrasound emulation MAY NOT work with the stock DOSBox. Your game will just play SoundBlaster sound unless you point DOSBox to a directory that has the proper GUS files in it, since THEY DON'T COME WITH DOSBOX.
Creating an updated directory of these files from the original installers is a process long and involved, so to make it easy for you I created an ULTRASND directory that has every file in it possible, and it's updated thru Pro Patches Lite 1.61. (Pro Patches Lite is a third party update set that is more current than, and considered superior to, the originals.)
This may be the first time you have ever heard Ultrasound working.
This is the first and only download like it on the internet, or else I would have not had to make one!
To see how I did it, you can learn to install GUS from scratch HERE.
Last edited by Huggybaby2 on Tue Sep 03, 2019 7:53 am, edited 9 times in total.
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I couldn't find a good install procedure anywhere. Most said "ignore the error messages" or advised unnecessary steps.
Plus, I would get different error messages doing the same thing. After several days it's all sorted, so here it is, the only comprehensive procedure for GUS anywhere. And it installs ALL the files this way.
I'll be adding screenies.
Plus, I would get different error messages doing the same thing. After several days it's all sorted, so here it is, the only comprehensive procedure for GUS anywhere. And it installs ALL the files this way.
I'll be adding screenies.
I'm always open to improvement, but ................
[Little annoying voice]
Why do you need those installed???
Dosbox already has the needed basic GUS support.
And as stated on VOGONS, you're really better off with the SB emulation, dosbox has been optimalized for use with SB.
That's what the dosbox developpers say, if you can't believe them......
In other words: what's the advantage?
And ... D.O.G 1.54 beta 5 is not 100% games compatible ... better off without frontends for dosbox, really.
[/Little annoying voice]
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Do you think this is the right place to post this? Maybe you would better post such things on the Vogons site.... just a thought.
When you read the posts for help here from the average would-be dosgamers, I seriously doubt many will be able to understand what you wrote.
From the regulars I would say maybe 10 or 20...... will understand it.
[Little annoying voice]
Why do you need those installed???
Dosbox already has the needed basic GUS support.
And as stated on VOGONS, you're really better off with the SB emulation, dosbox has been optimalized for use with SB.
That's what the dosbox developpers say, if you can't believe them......
In other words: what's the advantage?
And ... D.O.G 1.54 beta 5 is not 100% games compatible ... better off without frontends for dosbox, really.
[/Little annoying voice]
Your link isn't a link ......? Something went wrong there. ;)Huggybaby2 wrote: 1. To Begin, Download <this>.
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Do you think this is the right place to post this? Maybe you would better post such things on the Vogons site.... just a thought.
When you read the posts for help here from the average would-be dosgamers, I seriously doubt many will be able to understand what you wrote.
From the regulars I would say maybe 10 or 20...... will understand it.
wardrich wrote:The contrasts in personalities will deliver some SERIOUS lulz. I can't wait.
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The link is coming, doing my pics now.
DOSBox does support Gravis, in fact I think they turn it on by default.
BUT!!
Imagine my chagrin when I discovered that it doesn't work...unless you have it pointed to a proper ULTRASND folder.
That's what my procedure gives you. Nobody includes these files for licensing reasons. I think you're supposed to actually own a GUS card to use these, but the files are available on the gravis ftp site...
<edit> I used DOG but I don't think I included any DOG specific info.
My download will help folks who can't follow the procedure, it will have a pre done folder in it.
I'm not sure VOGONS is the best place either. I'll pull this if you want, I'll understand. I could try VOGONS.
DOSBox does support Gravis, in fact I think they turn it on by default.
BUT!!
Imagine my chagrin when I discovered that it doesn't work...unless you have it pointed to a proper ULTRASND folder.
That's what my procedure gives you. Nobody includes these files for licensing reasons. I think you're supposed to actually own a GUS card to use these, but the files are available on the gravis ftp site...
<edit> I used DOG but I don't think I included any DOG specific info.
My download will help folks who can't follow the procedure, it will have a pre done folder in it.
I'm not sure VOGONS is the best place either. I'll pull this if you want, I'll understand. I could try VOGONS.
Fair enough.
As I said, the GUS support in dosbox is basic, maybe for some games it can be an improvement.
Now, some of us will benefit from your howto.
THX for the effort, please don't think it's not appreciated.
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Vogons is the home of the dosbox devs, I'm pretty sure they would be interested.
As I said, the GUS support in dosbox is basic, maybe for some games it can be an improvement.
Now, some of us will benefit from your howto.
THX for the effort, please don't think it's not appreciated.
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Vogons is the home of the dosbox devs, I'm pretty sure they would be interested.
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wardrich wrote:The contrasts in personalities will deliver some SERIOUS lulz. I can't wait.
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OK, going over it again, the procedure was certainly a bit much when I can just give you a link to the final result.
I've changed my first post, it now contains just a link and an explanation of why you might want it.
If you're really into DOSBox, I'm posting the detailed procedure later at vogons.
Thanks,
Huggybaby
I've changed my first post, it now contains just a link and an explanation of why you might want it.
If you're really into DOSBox, I'm posting the detailed procedure later at vogons.
Thanks,
Huggybaby
Nice, saw your post at Vogons. Good done, really.
Works fine.
Nice sound too.
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Tested under Vista (32-64)
Vista users
If you're on Vista:
http://www.dosgames.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10437
(Use this EVEN if you're running Vista on a admin account, will avoid you a lot of problems and error messages)
Use as folder to extract the GUS files:
c:\users\your_name\dosgames\ultrasnd\
ultradir=C:\ULTRASND in dosboxconfig.
Will avoid you getting error messages as Vista is really nitpicking about a lot of things, and Vista doesn't like you to use c:\ to store things.
If you want to test the GUS possibilities:
run dosbox, input
cd ultrasnd
mididemo
Works fine.
Nice sound too.
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Tested under Vista (32-64)
Vista users
If you're on Vista:
http://www.dosgames.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10437
(Use this EVEN if you're running Vista on a admin account, will avoid you a lot of problems and error messages)
Use as folder to extract the GUS files:
c:\users\your_name\dosgames\ultrasnd\
ultradir=C:\ULTRASND in dosboxconfig.
Will avoid you getting error messages as Vista is really nitpicking about a lot of things, and Vista doesn't like you to use c:\ to store things.
If you want to test the GUS possibilities:
run dosbox, input
cd ultrasnd
mididemo
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wardrich wrote:The contrasts in personalities will deliver some SERIOUS lulz. I can't wait.
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Thank you!dosraider wrote:double post yay!
For those who want to know what all the fuzz is about:
Try it with Doom, set your sound and midi to gravis, OUTSTANDING !!!!
PS: Again congrats, Huggybaby2, works flawless.
It looks like the Vogons guys don't have any problems with a pre-done ULTRASND directory either...
I added a link to my procedure in the first post above.
[Shameless copycat mode on]
Those are the games that can benefit from GUS.
Copycat from Huggybaby2's post on Vogons ......
[/shameless copycat mode off]
Think that's an usefull list for those who wants to try GUS out.
Is it worth it?
Yes, certainly.
Those are the games that can benefit from GUS.
Copycat from Huggybaby2's post on Vogons ......
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SOFTWARE TITLES DIRECTLY SUPPORTING GRAVIS ULTRASOUND/MAX
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As of December 1994
Publisher Title Retail Release
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21st Century Pinball Fantasies Shipping
Access Under a Killing Moon Shipping
Accolade Star Control II Shipping
Hardball 4 December
Brett Hull Hockey February
Apogee Raptor: The Shadow of Darkness Shipping
Hocus Pocus Shipping
Wacky Wheels Shipping
Boppin Shipping
Bethesda Delta V Shipping
Terminator: Rampage Shipping
The Arena Shipping
Road to the Final Four Shipping
Crystal Dynamics The Horde Shipping
Dynamix Alien Legacy Shipping
Electronic Arts SSN-21 Sea Wolf Shipping
NHL Hockey CD Shipping
FIFA Soccer Shipping
Relentless Shipping
Epic MegaGames Jazz Jack Rabbit Shipping
Zone 66 Shipping
Epic Pinball Shipping
One Must Fall 2097 Shipping
Flair Software Paradox Shipping
Grandslam Nick Faldo's Championship Golf Shipping
Reunion Shipping
Seventh Sword of Mendor Shipping
Football USA Shipping
Motor Mania Shipping
Assassin Shipping
Hollyware Entertainment Johnny Quest Shipping
Id Software DOOM Shipping
DOOM II Shipping
Impressions The Blue & The Grey Shipping
Interplay Star Reach December
Descent Shipping
Blackthorne Shipping
Creature Shock Shipping
Knowledge Adventure Kid Zoo Shipping
Kid Zoo (CD) Shipping
Under Sea Adventure Shipping
Dino 3D Adventure Shipping
3-D Body Adventure Shipping
American Adventure Shipping
Bugs Shipping
Speed Shipping
Science Adventure Shipping
Looking Glass Tech. Flight Unlimited January
Lucasfilm Games Rebel Assault Shipping
Merit Software Harvester February
Cyber Judas December
Microleague Silver Ball Shipping
Microprose UFO Shipping
Mirage Jack the Ripper Shipping
Musicware Piano Shipping
New World Computing Empire Deluxe Shipping
Inherit the Earth Shipping
Zephyr Shipping
Ocean Inferno January TFX CD Shipping
Origin System Shock Shipping
Wing Commander III Shipping
Psygnosis Hexx Shipping
Ecstatica Shipping
Microcosm Shipping
Hired Guns Shipping
Theatre of Death Shipping
QQP The Pure War Shipping
Sales Curve The Lawnmower Man Shipping
Cyber War Shipping
Sierra On-Line Leisure Suit Larry VI Shipping
Sir-Tech Jagged Alliance January
Star Trail Shipping
Spectrum Holobyte Star Trek: TNG January
SSI Darksun Shipping
Archon Ultra Shipping
Alkadim - The Genie's Curse Shipping
Serf City - Life is Feudal Shipping
Great Naval Battles 2 Shipping
Tank Construction Set Shipping
Alien Logic Shipping
Cyclones Shipping
Wake of the Ravager Shipping
Panzer General Shipping
Twelve Tone Systems Cake Walk Pro V2.x Shipping
Virgin Voyeur Shipping
The 11th Hour February
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Advanced Gravis also maintains and updates a patch library. For games that
were previously released without UltraSound native support, consumers can
either download or contact Advanced Gravis to obtain a file that will
provide native support. These games include:
Gabriel Knights, Police Quest 4, Quest for Glory 3, Leisure Suit Larry 6
Ultima 8 - Pagan, IndyCar Racing, The 7th Guest, Sim City, Sim Farm,
Sim City 2000, Masters of Orion, Dark Legions
Think that's an usefull list for those who wants to try GUS out.
Is it worth it?
Yes, certainly.
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You made my day dosraider.
I have updated the download link in my first post, plus some text and the topic title (since it's not an install guide anymore.)
Now you will download the Pro Patches Lite 1.61 updated version (which was up there before) AND the factory stock 4.11 version. The download is almost the same size as before due to all the shared files.
Point DOSBox to one folder then the other, listening to mididemo.bat in between. Some songs are changed quite a bit.
Notice how the insturment balances can get thrown off, because some of the PPL patches seem louder than the originals. This can cause game irritations too, throwing off the balance between a bird chirp and a trumpet, causing you to miss a door opening because the other sounds were too loud---well, that's an imaginary example, but you understand I'm sure.
So, now you can listen to the stock version too if that is a problem. I'm not sure how DOSBox sounds compared to a real GUS card, but it's cool nonetheless!
Huggybaby
I have updated the download link in my first post, plus some text and the topic title (since it's not an install guide anymore.)
Now you will download the Pro Patches Lite 1.61 updated version (which was up there before) AND the factory stock 4.11 version. The download is almost the same size as before due to all the shared files.
Point DOSBox to one folder then the other, listening to mididemo.bat in between. Some songs are changed quite a bit.
Notice how the insturment balances can get thrown off, because some of the PPL patches seem louder than the originals. This can cause game irritations too, throwing off the balance between a bird chirp and a trumpet, causing you to miss a door opening because the other sounds were too loud---well, that's an imaginary example, but you understand I'm sure.
So, now you can listen to the stock version too if that is a problem. I'm not sure how DOSBox sounds compared to a real GUS card, but it's cool nonetheless!
Huggybaby
can somebody honestly walk me through getting GUS to work on say, Heretic, or Ultimate DOOM, STEAM installs?
Brand new steam installs, and have downloaded the pack in the first post.
Now what?
(I think I got it all to work, but either the difference in sound from SB16 for sound + General Midi for music is very small, or it's defaulting to those things somehow and I'm not doing it right)
I'm not sure what to do exactly with the downloaded files, and beyond that, I'm sure there is osmething I need to do with the games' .cfg files AND .conf files.
Brand new steam installs, and have downloaded the pack in the first post.
Now what?
(I think I got it all to work, but either the difference in sound from SB16 for sound + General Midi for music is very small, or it's defaulting to those things somehow and I'm not doing it right)
I'm not sure what to do exactly with the downloaded files, and beyond that, I'm sure there is osmething I need to do with the games' .cfg files AND .conf files.
Used your instructions to get Gravis sound working in X-COM ... and holy crap what a difference it made! Thanks for taking the time to figure this all out Digging up all my old DOS games to see how different they sound now
--mauirixxx
"Back in the 90's, I would laugh at older folks playing their old games. Fast forward 20 years, and I "get it" now."
"Back in the 90's, I would laugh at older folks playing their old games. Fast forward 20 years, and I "get it" now."