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What about German DOS games?
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emmzee
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 3:15 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

Grandy02, if the games are small (say less than 200k) you can email them to me, but if you could zip/upload them somewhere that might work better.

There's a whole pile of different file-sharing sites out there, like:

http://www.eatlime.com/
http://www.senduit.com/
http://www.yousendit.com/
etc

(And yes, you're right, I forgot about Perestroika Tbbbbbth!)
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 11:02 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh wow...is DOS Games going global? That would be pretty awesome.

We could start modding the website into other languages and stuff too.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 3:14 am     Post subject: Reply with quote

But first, a game database!(hint, hint)
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 6:37 am     Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with the database thing! It is, THE FUTURE!


And there are some easy to use CMI's out there which don't require much coding, if you think it's too much trouble. Most of us would be willing to help. We know this is your pet project, but don't you want it to grow and become even bigger? Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 2:27 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

So, here I finally suggest the first 3 games. These ones are even on the Internet, but almost unknown in the English-speaking world. They are games by TOM Productions (Germany). Sadly, their most famous games, the Game of Robot series, are available in German only and you need to know this language to play them. However, they also made a number of other nice games both in English and German. Plus the very old "ancient version" of Game of Robot, that is self-explanatory though it contains German text. Here we go:


The Game of Robot - 1986 - Freeware

The precursor of the same-named (in certain regions) successful series of games. Originally made when the name TOM Productions didn't even exist in 1983 for 6502 computer, the game was ported to DOS in 1986. In 2002, the game appeared on TOM Productions' homepage for free download, with a few improvments including slowed-down speed for modern computers and a nice introduction. The intro text is in German only, but that shouldn't matter, it's easy to understand this game by yourself (the rest of the very rare texts is even mostly in English).

It's an ASCII game where you control the hero (the face) through a number of rooms. Your objection is to destroy all robots (the Greek letters) in every room to continue. No, not by shooting, you have to outsmart the robots instead. Lure them into the electric fences (the #) that kill both the robots and you on contact. Various things appear in the rooms, like moveable blocks, teleporters to labyrinths and duplicator stars, just try it out. Also keep in mind that you can change the speed before the game starts (as seen in the upper status bar) and create electric fences around your hero by pressing Return (the "Safes", mentioned in the status bar).

In the last room, you have to collect the gold and carry it into the first room again. Over and over again until you have lost all your lives and can hopefully make your entry in the high score table.

Download: from here (site German only, here's the direct link)


PC-Bakterien! - 1993 - Shareware

In this unusual game, you have to get rid of the evil bacteria and viruses in the microcosm. The character you play is the microbe Mikky. It must inform the Helper cells about the enemies so that they can mark and stop their propagation. The sluggish Feeder Cells eat the marked bacteria. All as it is in the real microcosm.

But Mikky's friends aren't as smart as it. So Mikky has to use different items to lead the cells to the bacterias and viruses. And don't forget the time, you'll lose if there are too many enemies, the fever gets up. It's hard to describe this unusual game, just give it a try and see!

The game features smooth-scrolling VGA graphics with loving attention to detail. Many objects are animated and even every minor object has its own description.

The game is both fully available in English and German.

Download: from here or here



FlipOut - 1994 - Shareware

A colorful ball & paddle game with high-quality graphics. Unlike the most of the other games of this kind, you don't automatically loose the game when the ball falls into abyss. Instead, you have to continue the game on a lower level after that and to reach the higher level again. But if you even fail on the lowest level, the game is finally over. Try to reach the highest level!

Like PC-Bakterien!, you can play this game either in English or German. Just click on the UK or Germany flag to change the language.

Download: from here or here


So, I hope those games are right for dosgames.com. They also made another shareware game called Nicolausi, but since it's a Christmas-themed game, we should reserve it for the December update, I think. Next time, I'll definately suggest games that aren't on the Internet.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 2:57 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

That TOM Productions is also available in English:
http://www.tom-games.de/eng/index.html
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 2:59 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr. Worm wrote:
That TOM Productions is also available in English:
http://www.tom-games.de/eng/index.html

Yes, but the English page is a bit outdated. The newer additions like the ASCII Game of Robot and the Windows versions of the German-only Game of Robot series are only found on the German site.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:10 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

I really hate to be a spoiler, alas, if I understand this right:
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Alle hier präsentierten Inhalte unterliegen dem Urheberrecht und dürfen nicht ohne vorherige, ausdrückliche Zustimmung des Autors verwendet werden.

It is said you need permission to distribute (host.... ?) those games.

Ahem.
Is this right Grandy02? I'm only Dutch/French/Anglaise, what you think?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:06 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

dosraider wrote:
I really hate to be a spoiler, alas, if I understand this right:
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Alle hier praesentierten Inhalte unterliegen dem Urheberrecht und duerfen nicht ohne vorherige, ausdrueckliche Zustimmung des Autors verwendet werden.

It is said you need permission to distribute (host.... ?) those games.

Ahem.
Is this right Grandy02? I'm only Dutch/French/Anglaise, what you think?

Hum, difficult. Of course everyone has to write on its website that the contents are copyrighted and can't be used by other people without permission. But that disclaimer goes for the whole website and its contents. But the games are not for nothing freeware and shareware, actually you can "use" them in someway if you keep the conditions. The license information of the game PC-Bakterien contains the following:



If I understand right, you can host the shareware version on a website without commercial interests. But maybe I should really ask the makers before...
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:15 am     Post subject: Reply with quote

I sent a mail to Andreas Tofahrn (one of the makers), but currently he doesn't have enough time to answer. Please have patience, thanks!

@emmzee: Can you already tell me whether these 3 games are suitable for dosgames.com? Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:28 am     Post subject: Reply with quote

Me guess is that question will be if emmzee is willingly to host downloaded files from other sites?
Usually it's considered bad behaviour to do such things.

Just a thought.

We also wouldn't like it if other sites simply download our games and host them. (At least without link to the original site, and even then ....)
It's called 'leeching'.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 12:03 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

dosraider wrote:
There is no real need to always quote the previous post, it's make the whole topic really messy ~dosraider

Huh? A lot of the games on dosgames.com are also available on other sites. And what makes the difference whether you either downloaded the game from another site or got the game from a CD, the game is still the same and the copyright holder of the game stays the same, too. Nobody can prove that. Or do I understand completely wrong??? Confuzzled
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 12:10 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

Grandy02 wrote:
Or do I understand completely wrong??? Confuzzled

Probably, yes.

There is something called 'good manners' and 'fair-play' between AW sites.
We are not on an isolated island.

It would be easy to download everywhere games and host them.
In no time you can have some 3000 games on your site.
And get the whole AW scene allover you also.

I certainly wouldn't want to be associated as mod, or even as member, to a leecher's site.

It's usual to host the games you own yourself. Or have the explecit permission to host them if you down them somewhere else.
Once again: it's not about having as much as possible games on your site, nor grow as fast as possible.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 12:51 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

dosraider wrote:
There is something called 'good manners' and 'fair-play' between AW sites.
u down them somewhere else.


Ahem! dosgames.com is not an AbandonWare site.

So one might claim that those good manners don't apply here! Tbbbbbth!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 1:12 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

dosraider wrote:

There is something called 'good manners' and 'fair-play' between AW sites.

But the TOM Productions homepage isn't an AW site, it's the makers' site, that only offers their own games. Like 3D Realms (Apogee) and Soleau Software also still offer their old games on their sites.

dosraider wrote:

It would be easy to download everywhere games and host them.
In no time you can have some 3000 games on your site.
And get the whole AW scene allover you also.

Yes, but I didn't want to speak about downloading hundreds of games from other sites, only a small number of certain games. That's bad of course if somebody abuses the hard work of other people, but I didn't mean that.

dosraider wrote:

It's usual to host the games you own yourself.

I already had the PC-Bakterien! game before I even had Internet. But an older version, of course.

dosraider wrote:

Or have the explecit permission to host them if you down them somewhere else.

I hope that I'll get the maker's answer soon. But as I told, that isn't an AW site.

dosraider wrote:

Once again: it's not about having as much as possible games on your site, nor grow as fast as possible.

Yes, of course, that's why I only suggest a small number of games. Not so well-known games in particular to save them from being forgotten.

I really don't want to start a conflict with you, dosraider, sorry! Sad

The only thing I currently want to know from emmzee is whether the games in question are suitable. Language issues and stuff, you know.
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