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PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 3:06 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

Just as an update (as I know you've all been dying to know what's happening) Team17 have said that, due to future plans, Alien Breed is far from being Abandonware - but won't comment further, and the Bitmap Brothers have emailed to say that at this moment they are working though their titles to make them work on XP and will be releasing them for sale on their web site in the near future - which makes me very happy indeed.

Also, Electronic Arts mailed to say:

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We also do not have the resources to appropriately patch and clear the rights for license products we no longer sell at retail. That said, I can only imagine in the next couple years all publishers will make their classic back catalog titles available to consumers via legal downloading channels.



The second part of which hints at a possible happy ending...

The campaign itself hasn't really achieved much, but at least I've learnt that some of my old favourites have been entirely forgotten about!
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 4:33 am     Post subject: Reply with quote

What 'bout DOS versions?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 1:07 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

Just signed the petition.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 1:44 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think they'll do anything with regards to the DOS versions, surely their main concern is to re-release the games in a format that will work on all (well, most) modern computers?

I think the fact that people are still signing the petition two full months and a bit after it's original appearance on the internet proves that their wasn't enough coverage of this (although there was a fair bit!), it's nice to see that companies such as Bitmap Brothers and Team17 aren't abandoning their older titles - but I think that, should a bigger gaming site provided this idea, that people in the industry would have been slightly more receptive.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 1:20 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

Back again!

This campaign took something of a nose dive during the time I was off-line, after writing up a brief summary of the campaign activity so far (including a list of companies that I’ve contacted and their (lack of) responses), I’ve been persuaded that it might be a good idea to continue the campaign - especially as we couldn’t expect the industry to change just because of one article and a few emails being sent to them.

The next stage of the campaign was to be to send out hard copies of the campaign with a covering letter (there’s a template of this, a printable version of the campaign, as well as some addresses in a zip file that can be downloaded – here) to Companies who published some of the older titles that we want the ability to play again. I would really appreciate any further inputs/feedback that people could offer at this stage (the constructive kind, rather than the “This won’t work and you’re stupid for trying” kind please). Also, if you’ve contacted any publishers/developers with a link to this campaign and obtained feedback, it would be great if you could email/PM me, and I could update the list I linked to previously.

I’m not saying the templates that I’ve created are perfect, but they’re a good starting point. If someone can think of a more appropriate way to word the letter, with a turn of phrase that will make publishers give further consideration to these ideas – then I’d be happy to change it and credit the appropriate person.

This ‘campaign’ seems to have consisted (as far as I know) of me chasing the publishers, emailing news sites with the article, and posting in numerous forums (as well as making my friends tarnish their reputations by insisting that they help me spread the word on the forums that they frequent). This really should have been more of a group effort, with others chasing, posting and educating people about what we would really like to happen (however unlikely).

Would appreciate any feedback that you may have with regards to this, or the campaign in general
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 8:10 am     Post subject: Reply with quote

I've read the replys

Ubisoft wrote:

Thank you for your email and for bringing our attention to the Exiled Gamers Abandonware Campaign. We appreciate your interest and enthusiasm for these classic games, as well as the passionate support that you are receiving via your petition from the gaming community who grew up playing these games. I hope that you can appreciate that Ubisoft’s intense focus lies in the creation of new games, especially in this period of transition for the gaming industry. It is our goal and strategy to invest all of our energy into renewing our current titles, while also creating 3 new brands every two years.

This forward-looking focus is shared on the part of retail outlets, who rarely accept to commercialise back catalog products, due to the lack of demand. While we certainly share your enthusiasm for classic games, and are aware that there is a community who shares your passion, we simply do not have the means to implement a business model that would include continued commercialisation of these products for which popular support does not exist.


We're men, WE'RE ROMANIAN MEN!!! WE RUUUUUUULE

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We also do not have the resources to appropriately patch and clear the rights for license products we no longer sell at retail. That said, I can only imagine in the next couple years all publishers will make their classic back catalog titles available to consumers via legal downloading channels.

Patching includes making sure the pre-XP/2000 OS games run on current systems and that DRM is in place. Clearing rights includes checking the expiration date of the Music, developer, talent and Licensor rights for each game.


Yeah, they're too busy buying games for $1000 and selling them for $100000 Tbbbbbth!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 5:08 am     Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting response (especially the first comment... Confuzzled)

So, I take it that you're not that impressed with the feedback received thus far? I'd like to say that it was highly unlikely that we'd get a massive turnaround within the first year of the campaign, it's more of a long effort than something that will instantly produce results; if we can get people from the industry on our side, then it would be a much more convincing fight than a campaign (plus petiton) that sprang forth from one of the smallest game sites that must exist on the internet.

As I say, if it's just me that contacts companies and asks them about this, then it's unlikely that results will happen in any great number (and will probably lead to a restraining order of sorts from games publishers - banning me from ever contacting them again), but if more people become involved contact and contact games publishers about the games that they'd like to see made available... Well, then we might stand something of a chance.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 1:46 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't worry my friend I'm totally backing you up on this Congratulatory
I just thought that those 2 were interesting. Sarcastic And just so you know Ubisoft has an impressive part of the company in Romania...
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 4:46 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

EA is a terriable company that makes good games and ubisoft is another dumb company that makes good games. Try asking companies like apogee and id to rerelease some of their old games. You may get some good results from doing that. Companies like EA, Ubisoft and are not going to rerelease their games because all they care about is money. Same goes for Lucas arts. You need to ask the smaller companies.I am sure you will get good results from asking Apogee. Ask smaller less successful companies. you may get good results from EPIC Games. Also ask SIERRA because you are going to probaly get good results from that. Ask Id also.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 10:32 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

Smaller companies Amazed Well they're they're not small (despite comparing them with EA might make you think so Sarcastic )

ok first and foremost: Sierra has been bought out by Vivendi U.(which is a money-whore as we all know Tbbbbbth! )
2nd: Apogee is now called just 3DRealms
3rd(and most important): Small companies tend to say
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Sorry we do not have the necessary resources.... Try EA or [other companies]


Bottom Line: I truly don't think we have to go only to the smaller companies, leaving the big bozos out... Because you'd be surprised to see that some of the big bozos are actually resonable!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 7:11 am     Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe they are only releasing the old games, due to a new game in the series or if a sequel has been released for that game.
With the release of the old game, they normally have warnings inside the box or case which actually state "no technical support exists with this game".

The only exception to this is the Sierra Collector's Edition Box Sets, which actually don't have any new releases for the titles!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:42 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

True but they're worth saving my money for Tbbbbbth!
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 11:17 am     Post subject: Reply with quote

hulk hogan wrote:
Try asking companies like apogee and id to rerelease some of their old games. You may get some good results from doing that.


Good point, I have actually mailed Sierra - but have never received any response from them. Also, as I say, I'd love it if other people would contact these companies with news of the campaign and then just post here to say if they've had any feedback - that way it's not just one person's email that they're deleting.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 6:10 am     Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike Wearing didn't answer either, when I asked Super Angelo.
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