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fabiobol Experienced Member

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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 3:21 am
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| I heard about some non-original chipsets, called VXPro, VXPro+, TXPro, HXPro, FXPro... Can you tell me something more? I saw a lot of Pentium-motherboards with these chipsets, and, if you don't want extra-performance, they run very well. |
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Elign Moderator

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jmmijo Lord of Gaming

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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 1:15 pm
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These chipsets were basically OEM versions of VIA chipsets, possibly some others like SiS and/or ALi as well.
I noticed them mostly on the really cheap Taiwainese motherboards like those from ECS which makes so many cheaper brands like Amptron, PC Chips, Matsonic et.al.
The advantage to many of these chipsets was that you could run other then an Intel CPU on them, for instance the old Cyrix 6x86 and the AMD K5/K6 series CPU's. |
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fabiobol Experienced Member

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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 3:22 pm
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| Yes, I know, but, about 2 years ago, we installed a AMD K6 /200 MHz processor on a Green Pci/Isa system from ABIT, with the chipset I430TX, and it ran very well! How do you explain this? |
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Elign Moderator

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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 5:25 pm
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| i430TX is the real Intel. In fact, it was Intel's final (and second best) chipset for Pentium-class motherboard. |
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jmmijo Lord of Gaming

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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 5:25 pm
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| fabiobol wrote: | | Yes, I know, but, about 2 years ago, we installed a AMD K6 /200 MHz processor on a Green Pci/Isa system from ABIT, with the chipset I430TX, and it ran very well! How do you explain this? |
Nothing to explain, some manufacturers built-in support in the system BIOS for non-Intel CPU's and others did not. That being said, some motherboards that were supposed to support non-Intel CPU's still had issues running these CPU's so it sometimes was problematic to getting a non-Intel CPU working properly. Other motherboards had little or no problems running all the CPU's that were available at the time.
Basically the compeating chipsets out at the time were primarialy used by the Tier 2/3 motherboard manufacturers, many of these had some or many issues running non-Intel CPU's... |
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Elign Moderator

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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 5:35 pm
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| From my POV, it would be AMD's responsibility to be 100% compatible with Socket 7 standards. |
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fabiobol Experienced Member

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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 4:10 pm
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| In your opinion, what of these 2 chipsets is the best? i430TX or Via (M)Vp3? |
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Elign Moderator

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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 9:27 pm
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If both of them are normal Socket 7 (not Super Socket 7), then I would go with the i430TX, as it was Intel's final Pentium chipset before it moved on to its Pentium II/Slot 1/440 series.
If the VIA is a Super Socket 7 (with 100 MHz FSB support) then I would go with the VIA. |
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fabiobol Experienced Member

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Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 3:08 am
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| Mine is a Super-socket 7, but I remember that with a i430TX MB, the performance were better than with my soltek sl-54u5. |
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Elign Moderator

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Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 8:16 am
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| If the CPU runs with 66 MHz bus, then it's fair game. |
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fabiobol Experienced Member

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Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 4:14 pm
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| Sorry, what do you mean? Sorry but I am Italian, and usually I don't understand some English expressions.... Could you explain me, please? |
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Elign Moderator

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Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 4:19 pm
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Ok...
If the CPU uses a 66 MHz bus, then the Super Socket 7 pretty much operates little different from the normal Socket 7, which also has a maximum bus speed of 66 MHz.
Since the Super Socket 7 would no longer have the advantage of the 100 MHz bus, the 2 chipsets can then be compared for their architectural features instead of their clock speed (since both operate at the same clock speed - 66 MHz). |
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Unknown_K Way too much free time

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Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 10:21 pm
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| The best Intel Pentium chipset was the HX (server class). The VX and TX could not cache more then 64MB of memory (so if you add more your system slows down quite a bit). There were other differences too. |
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Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 11:00 pm
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| The HX lacked SDRAM support (and it was a tad older) in spite of its superior performance. |
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