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GameMaster.EXE
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 2:23 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

dosraider wrote:
Fully agree with that.
It was only a reply to GameMaster.EXE 's statement, he give me the impression he consider Windows 3.1. as a full OS, concived for a 386 cpu.
Or something..........hmmm.
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Why the hell would I think that? Windows 3.1 needs dos just to show it's puny face!! I think what I was trying to say was that if dos was the only OS on your system, a 386 cpu is needed to install and run Windows 3.1. Windows XP is a complete OS, with no needed dos support.
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GameMaster.EXE
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 11:15 am     Post subject: Reply with quote

486 player wrote:
586 was the 1st Pentium generation.


80586?!? Shocked
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Frenkel
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 11:56 am     Post subject: Reply with quote

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/80586
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GameMaster.EXE
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 12:05 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

GameMaster.EXE wrote:
486 player wrote:
586 was the 1st Pentium generation.


80586?!? Shocked



Hey! nobody told me they a 586

"1st Pentium Generation?" I think 486 player is talking about 8586
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486 player
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 1:16 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like it.
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GameMaster.EXE
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 1:24 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah...........
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Kazer0
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 4:10 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

dosraider wrote:
GameMaster.EXE wrote:
I'm using a 486. 386 was the standard for Windows 3.1..............

Win 3.x is a GUI for dos....NOT an OS !!!
Delete your dos and win 3.x won't even run.
Graphical
User
Interface
yes ?


Wow, you really are being a jerk. But since you want to be technical, he is quite right. It is a computer operating system.

Operating Systems allow an interface between the user and the computer hardware. Even though Windows 3.1 was built on Dos, it allows the computer to function, and the user to make it do so. It is quite possible to have an OS on another OS.
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GameMaster.EXE
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 4:50 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

*removed*

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 6:40 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

No, its not at all. Please see the post in general off-topic.
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WishboneDawn
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:37 am     Post subject: Reply with quote

GameMaster.EXE wrote:
GameMaster.EXE wrote:
486 player wrote:
586 was the 1st Pentium generation.


80586?!? Shocked



Hey! nobody told me they a 586

"1st Pentium Generation?" I think 486 player is talking about 8586


?? They changed the name from 586 or 80586 to Pentium because of copyright issues.

For the record I'm putting a Cyrix 686 (equivelant to a PII) in my next DOS build.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:42 am     Post subject: Reply with quote

I knew it! I always said a 586 is like a pentium, but no they didn't listen... I pity the fools.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 1:26 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

Gamer_V wrote:
I knew it! I always said a 586 is like a pentium, but no they didn't listen... I pity the fools.


Some simply game, some of us are hardware geeks.Happy
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dosraider
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 7:54 am     Post subject: Reply with quote

Kazer0 wrote:

Operating Systems allow an interface between the user and the computer hardware. Even though Windows 3.1 was built on Dos, it allows the computer to function, and the user to make it do so. It is quite possible to have an OS on another OS.


Yes you can have an OS on a OS, BUT win3.11 isn't a OS , never was and never will be.

A OS is an operating system, win 3.11 is a graphical user interface.
take away io.sys, msdos.sys, himem.sys, emm386.exe,mscdex.exe or any needed file (msdos/drsos/pcdos/freedos or whatever win3.11 can run on) and you can trow your pc in the trashcan.
win3.11 isn't able on his OWN to run on ANY pc.
It is an interface, shipped with some improved sysfiles,who remplace the originals,nothing more and nothing less, a interface.
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Wally
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 8:17 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

Windows 3.11 is for workgroups
Windows 3.1 is for any user except for those who need a network

Windows 3.1x is more like Dos with pictures on top.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 3:23 am     Post subject: Reply with quote

THX Wally, that clarifies the...the....yep.



I would like to see Kazer0 install his w3.x OS on a formatted HD, as he claims it is an OS, their would be no problem.
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