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wardrich lawl catz r lawlz

 Joined: 14 Sep 2002 Posts: 3361 Location: Ontario Canada
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Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 11:16 pm
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Here are the specs
Thermaltake VM3000A (Black, no PSU)
Thermaltake Butterfly 470w PSU (black)
Lite-on 8x DVD-RW (black)
Lite-on 52x32x52 CD-RW (black)
Neon (maybe, the PSU has blinking LED, so neon may not be needed)
Neon-controller knobs (only needed if I get Neon)
Mitsumi Card-reader / floppy drive (black)
Now the good stuff
AMD 2gig 1m cache 64bit
Asus K8V-Deluxe
1gig Corsair twinX Pro LED
2 250gig SATA drives (or 2 250gig IDE... depends on price)
ATi Radeon 9800XT (or maybe Asus... easier to Overclock)
Soundblaster Audigy II Platinum
Asus TV/FM card
Loading system with:
Win XP / Linux (Debian, Mandrake, or Lindows)
And so there you have the "Bragg0rb0x" With it I shall learn how to uber-ha><0r the Windows registry, load it w/ DesktopX (or w/e it's called)
and teach myself Linux (and yes I'm ready to reformat on an almost daily basis... how much is Norton Ghost...? )
Grand Total: $3371.63 Canadian (that's after teh tax, but before my discount)
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Unknown_K Way too much free time

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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 1:06 am
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Sounds like a very nice system, and it should last you a while. Just dont get too depressed when faster systems come out in 6 months, bragging rights dont last long on computers.
Out of curiosity why are getting a cdrw and a dvd+/-rw for that gaming system? The dvd recorder will burn cdr's just fine and from what I remember some games wont even run if you try to play them in a recordable drive (need a normal dvd or cdrom instead because of software protection). |
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Wally i r teh pwnage
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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 4:28 am
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Loading system with:
Win XP / Linux (Debian, Mandrake, or Lindows)
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do you have to have windoze on it? |
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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 1:31 pm
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| Are you using RAID on those two drives? |
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Kazer0 Mercenary Dishwasher
 Joined: 17 Sep 2002 Posts: 2720 Location: In an igloo with my pet penguin, eh?
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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 4:34 pm
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| Windows Server 2003 is SO much cooler than XP. |
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wardrich lawl catz r lawlz

 Joined: 14 Sep 2002 Posts: 3361 Location: Ontario Canada
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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 4:46 pm
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| Unknown_K wrote: |
Out of curiosity why are getting a cdrw and a dvd+/-rw for that gaming system? The dvd recorder will burn cdr's just fine and from what I remember some games wont even run if you try to play them in a recordable drive (need a normal dvd or cdrom instead because of software protection). |
The DVD burner will probably only do 48x... and I want 52x (They're like $32 CAN... why not?)
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Are you using RAID on those two drives?
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The board I'm going to get supports RAID, but I've never used it before. If it's not too hard to set up, then sure!
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do you have to have windoze on it?
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I only want Linux on there as a learning experience. I need teh Wind0rz for Homework, and gaming.
One thing I forgot to mention is that if I decide to go with the liquid cooling (I can expect to put a LOT more money on that total) and I'll also buy the Thermaltake Aquarius III box.
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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 5:56 pm
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There are different kinds of RAID. One is slow but protects your data, the other is fast but you're putting your data at double risk (if one of your hard drives crash, all your data on both drives is gone!)
You might have to do some reading but it shouldn't be too tough for you to handle. |
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Unknown_K Way too much free time

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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 6:21 pm
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| na010894 wrote: | There are different kinds of RAID. One is slow but protects your data, the other is fast but you're putting your data at double risk (if one of your hard drives crash, all your data on both drives is gone!)
You might have to do some reading but it shouldn't be too tough for you to handle. |
Raid 0 is striping where 2 or more drives have parts of data on them and you get greater speed at a greater risk (1 drive dies you lose all the data)
Raid 1 is where 2 or more drives are mirrored, no speed increase and you lose capacity but its more reliable.
then there are combinations of the 2 where some drives are striped while 1 or more hold data so that a bad drive can be replaced and filled back.
I use raid 0 on my main machine for storing large files before they get burned on another machine, much faster moveing data. |
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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 6:32 pm
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Thanks, Unknown_K! I couldn't remember the numbers!  |
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wardrich lawl catz r lawlz

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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 10:22 pm
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| Ya... nor could I. Maybe I won't go RAID... Is it much faster than using 2 HDD's +8mb CACHE? |
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Unknown_K Way too much free time

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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 11:22 pm
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Well lets say that you have 2 80gb drives that have an individual speed of 20mb/sec. In raid 0 the file your loading is in 2 halves (one half stored on each drive) so when you run it your getting 2x20mb/sec or 40mb/sec transfer speed since your loading the file parts from both drives at the same time combining their top speeds (minus a little overhead). This is why raid 0 is very popular, but like I said before if one of your drives dies ALL your data goes with it (since parts are on each drive).
P.S. The computer would just see one very fast 160gb drive in this configuration. Just about any raid card can also span the drives to create one 160gb drive but it wont be striped so that if 1 drive fails you just lose the data on that 1 drive. the cool part of spanning is having one large drive instead of 2 (or more) smaller ones so you dont have to dig around multiple drives to find your files and wont have multiple almost full drives that wont fit that last file you need. |
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wardrich lawl catz r lawlz

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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2004 11:07 am
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| I think I'll hold off on teh RAID for a while |
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dr_st Lord of Gaming

 Joined: 23 Jun 2004 Posts: 309 Location: Absorbed into Clayface
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Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 9:20 am
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| Quote: | | Out of curiosity why are getting a cdrw and a dvd+/-rw for that gaming system? The dvd recorder will burn cdr's just fine and from what I remember some games wont even run if you try to play them in a recordable drive (need a normal dvd or cdrom instead because of software protection). |
You read wrong. There are no problems whatsoever running games from recordable drives. None.
| Quote: | | The DVD burner will probably only do 48x... and I want 52x |
There are many good reasons to own a DVD-Recorder and a CD-Recorder but that one is just plain retarded. I mean if the DVD-Recorder burnt at 24x (some do), I'd understand, but 48x to 52x? |
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