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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:43 am     Post subject: Mac for uni... Reply with quote

I was wondering...

I'm on a budget (student)...but i'm pretty sure i'll be buying a mac soon for uni work. I'm doing a media production major and obviously, working on macs at the uni.

I was wondering what everyone would suggest? I was thinking something laptop...?

Any help would be great.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:24 am     Post subject: Reply with quote

Budget & Mac = contradiction.

Budget = PC.

And teh new Macs are TeH EviL.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:56 am     Post subject: Reply with quote

I need a mac though. Sad

You aren't helping.

Budget means, "don't suggest top of the range because i know mac's are bastardly expensive."

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:59 am     Post subject: Re: Mac for uni... Reply with quote

GAMER wrote:
I'm doing a media production major ...


Oh yes I'm helping .... Laughing

I'm doing a media production major & budget & Mac= contradiction.
The basic Macs are worthless.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:45 am     Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah?

So pretty much, i'm looking at the top of the range stuff?

What kind of cost?

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:25 am     Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I'm gonna leave you in the capable hands of our Wally.
I'm really too disgusted of what Mac has become lately.

It would probably help Wally if he would know what applications you will need to make your project.

Also keep in mind that plenty application results are usable cross-platform.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:44 am     Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.apple.com/au/macbookpro/

For a decent mac, you're looking at $2899 for a BASIC model of the pro, probably going into the $3100/$3200 range if you want it to actually take less than 5 years to do anything. (ie, getting a better processor, that 2.6 is "up to", meaning it's NOT the basic model - which is more 1.8/2.0) But whatever Wally tells you, DON'T get an Air. You'll regret it for the rest of your life.

Or you could get a PC... my Dell Inspiron 1501, which has comparable stats to a basic Macbook Pro, cost me $780 after my school and work discounts. (was originally $1100ish) Admittedly, a Mac has better video editing software from the get go, but you can pirate buy excellent software for ~$300. Benevolent
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:14 am     Post subject: Reply with quote

I once used mac video editing software. It crashed even more than bloody Pinnacle!
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:15 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

dosraider wrote:
I think I'm gonna leave you in the capable hands of our Wally.

Correction, in the capable hands of Dogbreath.

No wonder, Wally's never around when we need him. Angry
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:59 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

I never saw this topic Sad

I am going to suggest either an Powerbook G4 (not intel) or MacBook (Intel)

However it all depends on the programs you are going to use, you'd get the PowerBook G4 quite cheaply however its not going to be as fast as a MacBook.

If you need one for graphics intensive stuff then go for the Pro that Dogbreath suggested or the Powerbook G4.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 5:24 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

Wally*Won_Kenobie wrote:

If you need one for graphics intensive stuff then go for the Pro that Dogbreath suggested or the Powerbook G4.


She's a Media Production major, of course it's going to be graphically intensive. Sarcastic

Have you ever edited a movie, Wally? Do you realize how long the process takes? A friend of mine and I filmed and produced a 33 minute movie over the course of 5 months in 2005. It took us and a professional editor we hired (with her parents money Laughing ) just under 50 hours to edit. The normal rate is about 2 hours of work for each minute of film. (Thunderdog has watched it, he can vouch for it's badassery)

Do you realize how much longer that takes on a computer that freezes for 10 seconds every time you try to copy/paste a selection of frames? Or move/overdub sound? Or integrate clips? And don't even get me started on colour enhancement/basic cinematography... obviously, without a competent computer, it's next to impossible.

IMO, Macs capable of decent performance are just too damn expensive for the average student.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 5:27 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

Wally*Won_Kenobie wrote:
I never saw this topic Sad

But ... but .... but .... you're a mod in this sub.

No wonder I must do all the work here, you simply don't care. Angry



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 5:36 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

dosraider wrote:

But ... but .... but .... you're a mod in this sub.


Only because he begged emmzee for, like, a year and emmzee is too softhearted...

I sense some jealously on the part of dosraider, though. Does this mean a potential assassination attempt? Is this where Larry as been all this time? Swimming to Australia? The plot thickens... Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 5:45 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

I deny.

And I wasn't the one who paid Larry's ISP a lockout bonus to .... euuurh, nevermind that.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:40 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

You get at least $200 off if you are a student and Apple also give you an iPod Nano.

Click your University
http://store.apple.com/Catalog/Australia/Images/AUEduUniversity.html

I have just been informed that Final Cut Pro does not work on a MacBook so you'll have to go MacBook Pro, that could replace your desktop PC quite easily.

However I'd like to see what Software you require and just so you know these computers last a long time Happy

If your parent's run their own business couldn't they get it and write it off as a business expense?

What sort of budget are we looking at?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 10:25 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hmm.

Which programs - I'll get back to you. I start actual tutorials next week.

Funds? Not sure either...

Hmm. I don't have much clue right now. Thanks for all the info though. It helps.

I'll add more and ask more over the next few weeks.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:12 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

Waits for gamer to reply..
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:27 am     Post subject: Reply with quote

Good thing you reminded me.

Pro-tools is what we seem to be using at the moment.

But as some of you know, GAMER is actually chronically ill. She's probably deferring uni as she has missed 40% of class thus far. So, chances are i won't be needing that puter anyways.

Though, is there a windows friendly pro-tools?

Also, i remember you guys talking about it at some point...Where do i get Audacity? And is it worth playing with?

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:38 am     Post subject: Reply with quote

http://aes.harmony-central.com/113AES/Content/Digidesign/PR/Pro-Tools-533-XP.html
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:49 am     Post subject: Reply with quote

Audacity is here:
http://audacity.sourceforge.net/download/

Though I doubt it'll take the place of a commercial [aka high priced] audio editing suite, it's free so you might as well download it and give it a shot. It can't hurt to have multiple tools available, given that you may be working in, say, Pro-tools, and be thinking "ARRRGH all I want to do is ____" ... so then you can load up Audacity and maybe there's an easy way to do it in that.

Another one I used to use many years ago is "Cool Edit Pro" ... I think the version I used is Cool Edit Pro 2000 ... though not entirely sure. Adobe has since bought it and turned it into Adobe Audition but you can still download it here:
http://oldversion.com/program.php?n=coolpro

As for Pro-tools itself, no idea. Never done any kinda "pro" level sound editing Shifty
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