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Gravis Ultrasound Drivers and Patches for DOSBox [Howto]
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 4:48 pm     Post subject: Gravis Ultrasound Drivers and Patches for DOSBox [Howto] Reply with quote

Is Your Gravis Ultrasound Emulation Really Working?
If you're not sure, or only "think so", then you should
Download the archive HERE!
Extract it with WinRar or 7-Zip or something.

Inside you will find two folders, ULTRASND411 and ULTRASNDPPL161.
Just point DOSBox to one of them! (411 is the factory version, and PPL161 is the souped up version.) Read more about the differences here.

Although not many games support it, DOSBox DOES emulate Gravis Ultrasound, which is considered by aficionados to sound much better than SoundBlaster. Here is a partial list of games that work with Gravis Ultrasound.

The only problem is that Gravis Ultrasound emulation MAY NOT work with the stock DOSBox. Your game will just play SoundBlaster sound unless you point DOSBox to a directory that has the proper GUS files in it, since THEY DON'T COME WITH DOSBOX.

Creating an updated directory of these files from the original installers is a process long and involved, so to make it easy for you I created an ULTRASND directory that has every file in it possible, and it's updated thru Pro Patches Lite 1.61. (Pro Patches Lite is a third party update set that is more current than, and considered superior to, the originals.)

This may be the first time you have ever heard Ultrasound working.

This is the first and only download like it on the internet, or else I would have not had to make one!

To see how I did it, you can learn to install GUS from scratch HERE.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 4:49 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

I couldn't find a good install procedure anywhere. Most said "ignore the error messages" or advised unnecessary steps.

Plus, I would get different error messages doing the same thing. After several days it's all sorted, so here it is, the only comprehensive procedure for GUS anywhere. And it installs ALL the files this way.

I'll be adding screenies.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 5:19 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm always open to improvement, but ................
[Little annoying voice]

Why do you need those installed???
Dosbox already has the needed basic GUS support.
And as stated on VOGONS, you're really better off with the SB emulation, dosbox has been optimalized for use with SB.
That's what the dosbox developpers say, if you can't believe them......

In other words: what's the advantage?
And ... D.O.G 1.54 beta 5 is not 100% games compatible ... better off without frontends for dosbox, really.

[/Little annoying voice]

Huggybaby2 wrote:

1. To Begin, Download <this>.

Your link isn't a link ......? Something went wrong there. ;)

*Edit
Do you think this is the right place to post this? Maybe you would better post such things on the Vogons site.... just a thought.
When you read the posts for help here from the average would-be dosgamers, I seriously doubt many will be able to understand what you wrote.
From the regulars I would say maybe 10 or 20...... will understand it.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 5:35 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

The link is coming, doing my pics now.

DOSBox does support Gravis, in fact I think they turn it on by default.

BUT!!

Imagine my chagrin when I discovered that it doesn't work...unless you have it pointed to a proper ULTRASND folder.

That's what my procedure gives you. Nobody includes these files for licensing reasons. I think you're supposed to actually own a GUS card to use these, but the files are available on the gravis ftp site...

<edit> I used DOG but I don't think I included any DOG specific info.
My download will help folks who can't follow the procedure, it will have a pre done folder in it.

I'm not sure VOGONS is the best place either. I'll pull this if you want, I'll understand. I could try VOGONS.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 5:40 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

Fair enough.
As I said, the GUS support in dosbox is basic, maybe for some games it can be an improvement.

Now, some of us will benefit from your howto.
THX for the effort, please don't think it's not appreciated.
Happy

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Vogons is the home of the dosbox devs, I'm pretty sure they would be interested.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 5:41 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

I could post at VOGONS and leave my file here if it's even allowable...
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 5:43 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

It's allowable in my humble opinion, aslong as it's freely downloadable on a ftpsite.

The last word about that is of course to the admins.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 5:53 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

OK. I'll spiff it up and let the chips fall. Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:03 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, going over it again, the procedure was certainly a bit much when I can just give you a link to the final result. Happy

I've changed my first post, it now contains just a link and an explanation of why you might want it.

If you're really into DOSBox, I'm posting the detailed procedure later at vogons.

Thanks,

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 4:24 am     Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice, saw your post at Vogons. Good done, really.

Works fine.
Nice sound too.

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Tested under Vista (32-64)
Vista users
If you're on Vista:
http://www.dosgames.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10437
(Use this EVEN if you're running Vista on a admin account, will avoid you a lot of problems and error messages)

Use as folder to extract the GUS files:
c:\users\your_name\dosgames\ultrasnd\

ultradir=C:\ULTRASND in dosboxconfig.

Will avoid you getting error messages as Vista is really nitpicking about a lot of things, and Vista doesn't like you to use c:\ to store things.

If you want to test the GUS possibilities:
run dosbox, input

cd ultrasnd
mididemo


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 5:56 am     Post subject: Reply with quote

double post yay!

For those who want to know what all the fuzz is about:
Try it with Doom, set your sound and midi to gravis, OUTSTANDING !!!!

Shocked


PS: Again congrats, Huggybaby2, works flawless.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 8:55 am     Post subject: Reply with quote

No double posting Dosraider. Tbbbbbth!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:57 am     Post subject: Reply with quote

dosraider wrote:
double post yay!

For those who want to know what all the fuzz is about:
Try it with Doom, set your sound and midi to gravis, OUTSTANDING !!!!

Shocked


PS: Again congrats, Huggybaby2, works flawless.
Thank you!
It looks like the Vogons guys don't have any problems with a pre-done ULTRASND directory either...

I added a link to my procedure in the first post above.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 2:07 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

[Shameless copycat mode on]
Those are the games that can benefit from GUS.
Copycat from Huggybaby2's post on Vogons ......
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         SOFTWARE TITLES DIRECTLY SUPPORTING GRAVIS ULTRASOUND/MAX
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Advanced Gravis also maintains and updates a patch library.  For games that
were previously released without UltraSound native support, consumers can
either download or contact Advanced Gravis to obtain a file that will
provide native support.  These games include:

Gabriel Knights, Police Quest 4, Quest for Glory 3, Leisure Suit Larry 6
Ultima 8 - Pagan, IndyCar Racing, The 7th Guest, Sim City, Sim Farm,
Sim City 2000, Masters of Orion, Dark Legions

[/shameless copycat mode off]
Shit-Eating Grin

Think that's an usefull list for those who wants to try GUS out.
Is it worth it?
Yes, certainly.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 7:21 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

You made my day dosraider. Happy

I have updated the download link in my first post, plus some text and the topic title (since it's not an install guide anymore.)

Now you will download the Pro Patches Lite 1.61 updated version (which was up there before) AND the factory stock 4.11 version. The download is almost the same size as before due to all the shared files.

Point DOSBox to one folder then the other, listening to mididemo.bat in between. Some songs are changed quite a bit.

Notice how the insturment balances can get thrown off, because some of the PPL patches seem louder than the originals. This can cause game irritations too, throwing off the balance between a bird chirp and a trumpet, causing you to miss a door opening because the other sounds were too loud---well, that's an imaginary example, but you understand I'm sure.

So, now you can listen to the stock version too if that is a problem. I'm not sure how DOSBox sounds compared to a real GUS card, but it's cool nonetheless!

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 9:49 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

can somebody honestly walk me through getting GUS to work on say, Heretic, or Ultimate DOOM, STEAM installs?

Brand new steam installs, and have downloaded the pack in the first post.

Now what?


(I think I got it all to work, but either the difference in sound from SB16 for sound + General Midi for music is very small, or it's defaulting to those things somehow and I'm not doing it right)

I'm not sure what to do exactly with the downloaded files, and beyond that, I'm sure there is osmething I need to do with the games' .cfg files AND .conf files.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 2:08 am     Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you run the game installer/soundconfig with STEAM stuffs?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 5:01 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Huggybaby2, your file pack was a life saver! Congratulatory
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:48 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

Used your instructions to get Gravis sound working in X-COM ... and holy crap what a difference it made! Thanks for taking the time to figure this all out Shit-Eating Grin Digging up all my old DOS games to see how different they sound now Happy Love
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 1:27 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

Can someone explain to me what does it mean "point DOSBox to folder"? Does it mean "install DOSBox into this folder" or "install DOSBox next to this folder" or what? English isn't my native language and even translator isn't very helpful with this Ashamed
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